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vet43Along those lines, I have jokingly said that I wish I was a lawyer who could persuade all 11 million illegal immigrants to leave. They will take with them about $55 billion in taxes they paid through sales tax ,Social Security, Medicare and income tax. ... Not only will the cost of produce rise but many of the vegetables, as in Alabama, will rot because it has been proven time after time that Americans won't do that work. That's not coming from me, that's coming from those Alabama farmers you mentioned. They launched national web sites and only a handful showed up and then they did not stay long.
After their departure of a couple of weeks; I would be able to negotiate a minimum wage union type contract between the parties as Cesar Chavez did.
This problem can be solved with a comprehension immigration reform package but we can't get to first base.
My kin folk in Alabama tell me that the new laws passed there have caused a "Get the Latino Out Vote" backlash. Everybody should roof thier own house and pour thier own concrete slabs. Then sit down and eat all those veggies they picked with thier soft white hands.
Even the GOP has a immigration position plank in thier platform that calls for reform.
Bighorn said " How can any sane person stand against positive ID, unless they plan on commiting fraud is beyond me."
To that I say, show me the records where voted voter fraud is currently taking place. Some people (sanity might be questioned)read the papers where "In two counties — Collier and Lee — at least nine people have been removed from the voter rolls under Scott's program, and elections officials have no solid proof that those people are noncitizens. More could be purged soon.
The sane person might not want to willingly cooperate with voter suppression. It's no mere coincidence that Republican governors are making it harder to vote in this presidential election year.... I'm for national ID card but libertarians will jump all over that and say it's government intrusion. I have no problem with the voter ID for the 2014 midterms and beyond because it will give those people who cannot get their identification by November, ample time to comply. Having said that, there are already a lot of precautions to prevent actual voter fraud.
It’s just too funny how people can say “I work with...." and consider that to be indicative of what Latino voters (US citizens) are concerned with. First they are not monolithic, except when it comes to the harsh rhetoric and tactics that were discussed in the GOP primaries and we won't even discuss the talk shows.... I think everyone believes in securing the borders but Latino's realize that most Americans don't want to do the work the migrants will do. if you have been in this area for time at all ,you would have seen the open invitation(http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2010/09/big-names-on-list-of-companies-ice-fined/ ) and then there are those wanting to electrifying the fences or perhaps setting up .50 cal machine guns and shooting anything that moves north. President Obama has stepped up with deportation and 1.2 million have left, but he's not given any credit for it. Latino's are not stupid they know the bar will be raised because the right only wants attrition; nothing else. Mitt Romney knows that, and that’s why he's for “self deportation."
I work with quite a few American born Hispanics and all of them voice full support for securing our border and reducing the number of illegal immigrants. The reason is simple...illegals will work for less and that reduces the employment opportunities in our country. If we don't limit illegal immigration, before long we will be just like Mexico, with all of its problems. In fact, in many areas along our southern border, we already have many of those problems.
Sorry, Senor Blanco. My minority's status in this state is not disturbing at all. I'd venture I'm much more comfortable in the southern regions of the continent than many others.
A most disturbing view from many is the firm stance against photo ID requirements for the sacred right to vote. It never ceases to amaze me than a simple colored card is all that is required to prove I am who I say I am at the polling place. How can any sane person stand against positive ID, unless they plan on commiting fraud is beyond me.
Of course, I carry my passport with me at all times. Just as is required in most other nations, with the exception of the good ole USA.
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You sure have to wonder why Hispanic folks would again vote for the cardboard cutout in our White House. He's deported more of their "compadres" than any other president, and keeps them unemployed and on the government dole. Guess they just don't have enough snap to realize they're being royally used by someone who doesn't give a rat's behind about them. Maybe they, too, are convinced they're better off now than they were when the "I" king stole the office three and-a-half years ago.
Big Horn-Do you think that this proposal will sound reasonable to 38% of the State's population? Don't get me wrong, your role as a dissipating minority has to be confusing. Y'all keep on with your current strategy: it's got road to success written all over it.
The most "reasonable" aspect of the GOP state platform to me is how while it is illegal to be an undocumented worker it is LEGAL to hire them.
I wouldn't vote for a party(GOP) that expects people to at least try to earn what they get. I would instead vote for the party(Dems) that wants everyone to be equal, expects zero if any effort on your part and is happy to hand over anything you need to make life better for you and be more "fair". LOL!
No war has been declared on anyone, but it should have been. Maybe we can use the advise of our border savvy President and build a moat with alligators. An embarrassing statement, I agree. But thats our President.
The writers of the constitution when written could scarcely have conceived of the situation we have now. With the government refusing to support it's states and instead working very hard to block them as they try to protect themselves. Sadly only a few states are really doing anything to battle the insanity of the current out of control situation.
My suggestion to the illegals that want to keep their family together... Take them all with you when you leave. I'll be happy to pay $30.00 for an orange versus the situation we have now.
1) Build temporary wall, Physical or laser sensor, along the Southern Border for 20 years.
2) Create a task force group to combat drug lords and coyotes on the border.
3) Heavily fine cities and counties that aid illegal immigration.
4) Punish any police officer or citizen who violates the 4th amendment, the 14th amendment and the Civil Rights Acts.
5) Punish those who mistreat illegal aliens.
6) Heavy fine, punish, or deport an illegal .
7) A child (16 and under) born to an illegal is America citizen under the 14th amendment, he or she shall be deported with the parents.
8) Ease the pathway for citizenship. Limit immigration from Eastern World,
9) Create more guest worker programs.
10) Create an American Foreign Legion to encourage or draft Illegal alien males to become citizens
11) End NAFTA and place high tariffs on countries that produce illegal immigration.
12) Granted the government to sue Corporations and businesses that hire Illegal immigrants
My reference to "people of color" refers to Latinos and African Americans as has been made public by the media. In order to reverse and end the purging, the Voters Rights Act has to be enforced. It is a pity that we have to legislate the right to vote due to the maliciousness of those that are responsible for voting obstacle, i.e., poll taxes, ID laws, etc. But I am sure you are familiar with all of this.
And your proposals are.......????
I saw no reference to as you say "people of color" in your original essay. Care expand and explain yourself?
I make reference to what is taking place in Florida. The governor is still attempting to purge more folks who have voted for decades off the voter data base until they can prove they are a citizen. Targeted so far are the elderly and people of color. It has been all over the media in case anyone missed it. To me that is slamming the door in someone's face. There isn't any justification for purging people off the voter rolls unless you are attempting to disenfranchise them.
Sounds like a reasonable answer to our recurrent problem, Mr. blanco.
Where are your proposals, Mr. Munoz?
4Create an Effective and Efficient Temporary Worker Program – A national Temporary Worker Program should be implemented to bring skilled and unskilled workers into the United States for temporary periods of time when no U.S. workers are currently available. The program should also require:•Self-funding through participation fees and fines;•Applicants must pass a full criminal background check;•Applicants with prior immigration violations would only qualify for the program if they paid the appropriate fines;•Applicants and/or Employers must prove that they can afford and/or secure private health insurance;•Applicants must waive any and all rights to apply for financial assistance from any public entitlement programs;•Applicant must show a proficiency in the English language and complete an American civic class;•Temporary Workers would only be able to work for employers that deduct and match payroll taxes;•All participants would be issued an individual Temporary-Worker Biometric Identification Card that tracks all address changes and both civil and criminal court appearances as a defendant
From the recent Texas GOP platform:
"Real ID Act - As the Real ID Act effectively creates an unconstitutional and privacy-inhibiting national ID card, we hereby call for its immediate repeal."
National ID card BAD. State ID card required for voting GOOD! My favorite part of the Texas voter ID law is how Texas college student ID cards are not acceptable ID for voting but the concealed carry card is acceptable.It's a mystery why the constitutionality of the law is under review.
In all fairness here's the Texas GOP Immigration Platform:
IMMIGRATIONThe Texas Solution – Because of decades-long failure of the federal government to secure our borders and address the immigration issue, there are now upwards of 11 million undocumented individuals in the United States today, each of whom entered and remain here under different circumstances. Mass deportation of these individuals would neither be equitable nor practical; while blanket amnesty, as occurred with the Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, would only encourage future violations of the law. We seek common ground to develop and advance a conservative, market- and law-based approach to our nation’s immigration issues by following these principles:1.Secure Our Borders – The U.S. Border must be secured immediately! We demand the application of effective, practical and reasonable measures to secure our borders and to bring safety and security for all Americans along the border and throughout the nation.2.Modernize the United States Social Security Card – We support the improvement of our 1936 Social Security card to use contemporary anti-counterfeit technology. The social security card will not be considered a National ID card for U.S. citizens.3.Birthright Citizenship – We call on the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the United States to clarify Section 1 of the 14th amendment to limit citizenship by birth to those born to a citizen of the United States with no exceptions.
Bob...Not to start a fight, but nobody is slamming the door in the face of citizens. The ones who get the door slamming treatment cannot vote -- legally -- anyway. Nobody is purging citizens from voter lists. Dead people and those who are not legally allowed to vote ARE purged. I read about a guy who said his grandfather always voted the straight republican ticket. Now that he's dead, he votes democrat.
Hispanic voters are as informed as all other voters. Would you vote for the party that continuously slams the door in your face, profiles you, calls you a dog, attempts to purge from voter lists, always wants to know if you are legal, places you in a generic category whether you have legal status or not, and now wants your vote?
why in God's name would any informed Hispanic vote for the party that has declared war on them?